North West Insider - Planning and Future of Property Sector Dinner
01/11/2009
Overcoming political uncertainty was up for discussion among property professionals at Insider's first sector dinner
Nick Lee and Rob White of NJL Consulting held a successful sector dinner on Planning and the Future of Property. The attendees were Nick Lee (NJL Consulting), Rob White (NJL Consulting), Paul Smith (Taylor Wimpey), Peter Nears (Peel Holdings), Chris Farrow (Central Salford), Nigel McGurk (Ainscough Strategic Land), Andrew Dickman (Patrick Properties), Nigel Smith (The Co-operative Group) and David Roberts (MAG Developments).
What's wrong with planning?
Nick Lee Planning can play more of a role in understanding the bigger picture of how development needs to progress. Suitably, availability and deliverability need to be the watchwords, and I think that's coming to the fore in housing now.
Nigel Smith One of the biggest issues is that everything changes as politicians change at local authorities. If you know the rules and the process is non-political, you can progress schemes with more confidence that it will be deliverable. Look at housing - one minute there are targets, the next there aren't.
Nigel McGurk The whole system hasn't become any more dynamic in 60 years. By the time applications are through, they're out of date.
Peter Nears With the falls in land values, the emphasis on evidence stalls progress because by the time you're through the process its historical evidence.
David Roberts Sometimes there has to be a leap of faith, discounting the evidence base, because the planning system does constrain momentum.
Paul Smith There's been too much management of housing. As a housebuilder, a local authority can tell us where to build, what to build and how big to build. And with affordable housing, how much to sell it for - there's no room for a market to operate.
Would radical change to presumed consent help?
Peter Nears It's a superficially attractive idea and may have worked in the past, but the world is a complicated place with EU legislation being just one factor.
Chris Farrow Why shouldn't a BREEAM Excellent scheme automatically win consent, rather than having to tick every box? It would remove a level of bureaucracy.
Andrew Dickman We would sign up for that - it's something that could be assessed independently, like building regulations.
Nigel McGurk But how do you deal with wider public realm issues and subjective views on design. Planners have expertise and generally see the bigger picture. There's an argument that says we need a more powerful planning officer. Demands are high.
Nigel Smith The breadth of planning officers workload has got bigger; they're being asked to make decisions on areas in which they aren't experts, whether economic viability, sustainability, or whatever the current political obsession is.
Chris Farrow Thinking about the bigger picture is needed, and planning has to be part of a larger process. An old milltown is never going to be a milltown again, it has to decide what it will be and everything needs to support that.
Nick Lee Over the past 18 months we have worked on a few outline parameter schemes - basically a semi-masterplan - that's working because the developer does not have to commit to the 300,000 - plus that a full major application can take, but £30,000. If it gets consent, it enhances book value and allows you to go to the market with a mini-consent, while convincing the local authority that you're not pulling a fast one.
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